Hi Min – it seems I am going to be a bit of a broken record on this one point. In the last two meetings, in response to questions I have raised, it is clear that we have not agreed as a group that “ all body Corp decisions will be made on the basis of consensus” only. I am curious that this keeps being repeated as if in fact we had agreed this was the case.
As I said last night, I appreciate some people feel strongly that all decisions should be based on consensus, while at the same time, several people feel equally strongly that options other than consensus need to be retained.
I do appreciate all the work you've done on this!
Regards
Marianne
Marianne Quinn
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Hi Roz, I'll set aside some time to discuss this at the workshop.
However, while all owners legally have a right to participate in the Body Corp, I don't think there is a law that excludes the option of inviting non owners into the body Corp meetings, so long as the owners agree.
It becomes a matter of how inclusive the co-housing community wants to be, as opposed to a standard, ordinary unit title development. In fact making decision by consensus only is already not the normal process for passing bc resolutions.
We can also waive or change the need for a body Corp committee if the owners agree. We could end up with many small commitees like co-housing groups Jan saw in America, rather than one administrating committee that is the norm.
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Am resending this as seems to have been misunderstood. More reading below:
If earthsong are managing with only one ‘committee’ either they aren’t unit titles or they are breaking the law. Have a feeling I have heard something to suggest it is the former. Regds roz
Have been reading up about body corporates and how ucol will be run.
Definition of a body corporate: A Body Corporate is a legal entity made up of all the unit owners within a unit titled property.
Definition of a committee: a person or group of persons elected or appointed to perform some service or function, as to investigate, report on, or act upon a particular matter.
Seems we will have two governing bodies, neither of which are actually committees.
The body corp looks after the rules, makes changes to them, polices them if necessary and does the management type tasks. Unless something comes up, maybe a request for a variation, the body corp meets only once a year. It is not a committee because membership is limited to people actually named as owners.
An organising committee, which for us would not be a committee either as membership is looser and no one is actually elected, can include owners, owner’s children, tenants etc and looks after the day to day running of the whole property. Eg when to have working bees, what to do for Christmas and do we really need an ice cream machine.
so can we please discuss membership of the body corp on the 26th as the bit at the bottom of min’s flowchart seems to be contrary to the laws about body corps. Thanks roz