January 2021 - Ucol-shareholders

Zoom recording of the “Gather” software demo
by Sander Zwanenburg 16 Jan '21

16 Jan '21

Hi all Today about ten of us met on zoom to get to know “Gather”. A recording of our meeting can be viewed here: https://otago.zoom.us/rec/share/TEJ7aqogYnr9-jM4ejRLojhxlTc8JrDm7uWUYdy1VJA… In it you will see we concurred we’d recommend to the group to try out Gather. In the next meeting I’ll provide a quick summary to allow us to review this recommendation. Nga mihi Sander PS. The recording will be deleted in 14 days but can be downloaded.

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Re: [Ucol-shareholders] name change?
by Gay Buckingham 16 Jan '21

16 Jan '21

I really like being proudly cohousing. I understood from the Stephen Edge letter it is reference to cohousing in the legal document which is the sticking point, not the name. If I am correct there would be no need to change the name. Can someone in direct communication with him ask for a yes/no response to use of cohousing in our name? Gay Gay Buckingham +64 27 4544012 > On 15/01/2021, at 11:24 AM, Maria Callau <maria(a)sur-architecture.com> wrote: > > How about "Toiora High St" - Cohousing. > Then we can use the first part for the bank, both parts for the newspaper and the third part for our friends... > > To be honest I always refer to our project as "cohousing". I don't really use the other words... > And people always ask me: how is the "cohousing" project going? > That reflects who we are and that is what matters most, isn't it? > > Maria > > Kind Regards, > > Maria Callau > 0211847490 > > SUR Architecture Limited > www.sur-architecture.com <http://www.sur-architecture.com/> > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:49 AM <mariannequinn(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:mariannequinn@xtra.co.nz>> wrote: > Hi all: if we have to drop Cohousing from the name, I like this suggestion from Min – ‘Toiora High St’. > > > > Not to draw too fine a parallel, but everyone know that ‘Summerset’ is Summerset Retirement village’ but the full title rarely used. > > > > Thanks to everyone for such a full attendance last night; for having thought through these issues and being willing to find a way forward for us all. Cohousing at its best! > > > > (warm) regards on another warm day in DN! > > > > Marianne > > > > > > Marianne Quinn > > > > Level 3, 115 Stuart Street, Dunedin > > P.O. Box 20, Dunedin 9054 > > ph +6434773115 or 0211612050 > > > > > > > > From: bluefrog <bluefrog(a)orcon.net.nz <mailto:bluefrog@orcon.net.nz>> > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2021 9:00 AM > To: Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:michael.rosemary@xtra.co.nz>>; alex king <alex(a)king.net.nz <mailto:alex@king.net.nz>>; Anne Thomson <e.anne.thomson(a)gmail.com <mailto:e.anne.thomson@gmail.com>>; Catherine Spencer <cmspencer.nz(a)zoho.com <mailto:cmspencer.nz@zoho.com>>; claire loftus <permacultureparadise(a)gmail.com <mailto:permacultureparadise@gmail.com>>; Dennis Chan <firstjuly(a)gmail.com <mailto:firstjuly@gmail.com>>; donald and miriam <donaldshand18(a)gmail.com <mailto:donaldshand18@gmail.com>>; 'Gay Buckingham' <gaybuckingham(a)tuatara.net.nz <mailto:gaybuckingham@tuatara.net.nz>>; Jan Burch <jrb5050(a)gmail.com <mailto:jrb5050@gmail.com>>; Jessica Shields <jess.alice.shields(a)gmail.com <mailto:jess.alice.shields@gmail.com>>; Liz Mitchell <lizfrizzle1962(a)gmail.com <mailto:lizfrizzle1962@gmail.com>>; Maria Callau <maria(a)sur-architecture.com <mailto:maria@sur-architecture.com>>; marianne quinn <mariannequinn(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:mariannequinn@xtra.co.nz>>; mikehazelnz(a)gmail.com <mailto:mikehazelnz@gmail.com>; rainer <rainer.ucol(a)gmail.com <mailto:rainer.ucol@gmail.com>>; 'Rosemarie Smith' <rose(a)voland.co.nz <mailto:rose@voland.co.nz>>; Sander Zwanenburg <sander.zwanenburg(a)otago.ac.nz <mailto:sander.zwanenburg@otago.ac.nz>>; Sandy Ross <sfross(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:sfross@xtra.co.nz>>; sara ferreira <ferreirasara(a)yahoo.com <mailto:ferreirasara@yahoo.com>>; Susan Jack <susanjjack(a)gmail.com <mailto:susanjjack@gmail.com>>; Susan Taylor <taysue70(a)gmail.com <mailto:taysue70@gmail.com>>; 'Tim Ross' <tim(a)architype.co.nz <mailto:tim@architype.co.nz>>; warren hurley <warren.hurley(a)orcon.net.nz <mailto:warren.hurley@orcon.net.nz>> > Subject: RE: FW: name change? > > > > "Toiora High Street" > > Just this sounds good too. > > Min > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:michael.rosemary@xtra.co.nz>> > > Date: 15/01/2021 8:40 am (GMT+12:00) > > To: alex king <alex(a)king.net.nz <mailto:alex@king.net.nz>>, Anne Thomson <e.anne.thomson(a)gmail.com <mailto:e.anne.thomson@gmail.com>>, Catherine Spencer <cmspencer.nz(a)zoho.com <mailto:cmspencer.nz@zoho.com>>, claire loftus <permacultureparadise(a)gmail.com <mailto:permacultureparadise@gmail.com>>, Dennis Chan <firstjuly(a)gmail.com <mailto:firstjuly@gmail.com>>, donald and miriam <donaldshand18(a)gmail.com <mailto:donaldshand18@gmail.com>>, 'Gay Buckingham' <gaybuckingham(a)tuatara.net.nz <mailto:gaybuckingham@tuatara.net.nz>>, Jan Burch <jrb5050(a)gmail.com <mailto:jrb5050@gmail.com>>, Jessica Shields <jess.alice.shields(a)gmail.com <mailto:jess.alice.shields@gmail.com>>, Liz Mitchell <lizfrizzle1962(a)gmail.com <mailto:lizfrizzle1962@gmail.com>>, Maria Callau <maria(a)sur-architecture.com <mailto:maria@sur-architecture.com>>, marianne quinn <mariannequinn(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:mariannequinn@xtra.co.nz>>, mikehazelnz(a)gmail.com <mailto:mikehazelnz@gmail.com>, Min <bluefrog(a)orcon.net.nz <mailto:bluefrog@orcon.net.nz>>, rainer <rainer.ucol(a)gmail.com <mailto:rainer.ucol@gmail.com>>, 'Rosemarie Smith' <rose(a)voland.co.nz <mailto:rose@voland.co.nz>>, Sander Zwanenburg <sander.zwanenburg(a)otago.ac.nz <mailto:sander.zwanenburg@otago.ac.nz>>, Sandy Ross <sfross(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:sfross@xtra.co.nz>>, sara ferreira <ferreirasara(a)yahoo.com <mailto:ferreirasara@yahoo.com>>, Susan Jack <susanjjack(a)gmail.com <mailto:susanjjack@gmail.com>>, Susan Taylor <taysue70(a)gmail.com <mailto:taysue70@gmail.com>>, 'Tim Ross' <tim(a)architype.co.nz <mailto:tim@architype.co.nz>>, warren hurley <warren.hurley(a)orcon.net.nz <mailto:warren.hurley@orcon.net.nz>> > > Subject: FW: name change? > > > > I got rejected by chat, again so try this. > > > > From: Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:michael.rosemary@xtra.co.nz>> > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2021 8:35 am > To: ucol chat (mailto:ucol-chat@list.king.net.nz <mailto:ucol-chat@list.king.net.nz>) <mailto:ucol-chat@list.king.net.nz <mailto:ucol-chat@list.king.net.nz>> > Subject: name change? > > > > Some talk last night about maybe changing the name. can’t imagine saying ‘oh I live in the neighbourhood in high st’ but think anne once called us a village. Now that I could imagine. By the time we even talk about it I may have forgotten so am chucking it out now. regds roz >

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working bee
by Roz Wilson 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

Just how many pavers are there to move? We don't want to drive all the way to town and back for one pallet when there seem to be plenty of others offering. Thanks roz

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Kitchen/meals group
by Anne Thomson 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

One of the potential subgroups is one to organise our community meals and related matters. There were volunteers at the end of last year, and I said I would convene is, but I have now forgotten who the interested people were. Please let me know if you want to be part of the small group thinking about how we go about our community meals. Anne Sent from my iPad

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Working bee Saturday 16th 10 am
by Rainer Beneke 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

Hi Tim and all Attached a sketch to guid you where to move the pavers to. Sorry I will not be able to come. Thank you for this help. kind regards Rainer Created with Scanner Pro Please call me if you need an urgent reply. Rainer Beneke +64 21 144 7700

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westpac
by Roz Wilson 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

This is the information given by Westpac when our application was refused. Not clear from that whether the documents discussed last night were the problem but we will resubmit as soon as the confirmation is available. Regds roz After a full review of this application and taking into account all the information provided, we're unable to assist with this request. The application does not meet Westpac's current lending criteria due to: * Other - to purchase a unit in the High Street Cohousing Project, Montpellier Street Dunedin. Unfortunately this security is not classed as standard residential and is unacceptable for security.

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Draft notes from the meeting attached
by Jan Burch 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

Hi folks I've attached tonight's notes as both pdf and word documents. As always your help to get these into final form is appreciated. You'll see that I have not attempted to capture all the detail of the discussion leading to the 4 minutes, because I felt that the minutes are the summary of those discussions. However I'm happy to be corrected on this. If anyone feels that there needs to be more detail added, please write something suitable and send it in to me. I'll try to get a final copy of the notes out to everyone on Monday (or maybe Sunday night) Thanks Jan

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Re: [Ucol-shareholders] Body Corp Rewrite - this Sunday
by Y Lee 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Hello all Whoever would like to be involved with the Body Corp Rules rewrite. Meeting is at Min's place at 2:30pm. This Sunday 17th Jan at *61 Isadore Road, St Clair.* We will aim to finish by 4:30 Please RSVP by Saturday, and I'll send you a copy of the latest Body Corp Rules with the edits Francis will make before the meeting. Regards Min

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Gather demo this Saturday 1pm on zoom
by Sander Zwanenburg 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Hi all Reminder: Tom from the Cohousing software called “Gather” ( http://info.gather.coop/) will demo the software this Saturday 1pm NZ time in our regular Zoom room as per below. Regards Sander Meeting ID: 9016 25 9016 Password 25 25 25 https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09

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Notes from meeting about insurance
by Anne Thomson 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Cognitive Verbs Alex and Anne met with Tina Gillan on Tuesday to go through the insurance proposals she had got for us. Her recommendation is to go with NZI - they are reputable, and for $15,000 less p.a. offer the same cover as Vero. Even so, annual insurance for the Body Corp (covering all the buildings) is $58,582 rather than the $22,000 we had been working on - the difference is largely because of the EPS construction (our SIPs panels). Neither NZI nor Vero would move on the cost because of the EPS construction. Tina is still wanting to negotiate further with NZI to reduce conditions around EPS which are based on an industrial setting rather than a domestic one. Currently the excess is set at $2500. We could discuss increasing the excess, but it is not going to make a huge difference to the premiums. She will try to negotiate a lower excess for glass and whiteware, which is reasonably standard in a domestic policy. We would recommend going with NZI, but can leave the formal decision for another week, since Tina wants to talk more with NZI before she finalises the proposal.

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