Hi everybody.
I have seen a few emails and comments about the hoggin paving.
Let's remember that the design team proposed the hoggin paving and that the group accepted it going all the way to our back doorsteps. We have nothing to say to SW about this. We like it or not, we have instructed them to do so. We might not be happy with the final result but it was our decision and they only followed our instructions and specifications. We could have asked for a sample but we didn't, so now we need to live with it. We also need to remember, as Tim pointed out, that the group decided not to have access at level with the units to reduce costs as this included expensive channels at every back doorstep. It was our decision to do that.
The levels are not perfect (in my view) but they are not the end of the world either. They also vary from house to house.
SOLUTIONS/SOLUTIONS!
We can easily build our paths by placing pavers or stones in our private back yards to access our back doorsteps. This would create a clean area to walk through (about 4 metres of path) with the added benefit of raising the level at our doorstep by around 30/50mm where needed potentially achieving the ideal 150/180mm doorstep at our back doors. We have placed two pavers at our stairs D5/D6 and you can clearly see how this would work fine.
At this stage, we need to finish this project, we are very close. Let's start working on our paths/planting over the weekend!
I also want to point out that ALL units have a hard surface entrance alternative: A units, H units, C units M1& M2 have front concrete pads and the D units have concrete balconies. Only M3 has no other alternative but the hoggin paving to access.
And let's also remember how lucky we are to have our units completed. They might not be perfect but nothing is, let's look at all the positives aspects of the project and let's start building our paths/gardens.
Have a great day :)
Maria
I think the hogging is a brilliant base to have. It can be permanent for some areas, or we can dig into it to lay pavers or edging.Completely versatile.Have a doormat at your entrance to kick off the bits for now. And design your private garden so the hogging stops a few meters away from your door in the future.Min -------- Original message --------From: High St Cohousing ucolbuild@gmail.com Date: 16/03/2021 8:56 am (GMT+12:00) To: UCOL shareholders ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz Subject: [Ucol-shareholders] Hoggin Paving and Solutions Hi everybody.I have seen a few emails and comments about the hoggin paving. Let's remember that the design team proposed the hoggin paving and that the group accepted it going all the way to our back doorsteps. We have nothing to say to SW about this. We like it or not, we have instructed them to do so. We might not be happy with the final result but it was our decision and they only followed our instructions and specifications. We could have asked for a sample but we didn't, so now we need to live with it. We also need to remember, as Tim pointed out, that the group decided not to have access at level with the units to reduce costs as this included expensive channels at every back doorstep. It was our decision to do that. The levels are not perfect (in my view) but they are not the end of the world either.They also vary from house to house. SOLUTIONS/SOLUTIONS!We can easily build our paths by placing pavers or stones in our private back yards to access our back doorsteps. This would create a clean area to walk through (about 4 metres of path) with the added benefit of raising the level at our doorstep by around 30/50mm where needed potentially achieving the ideal 150/180mm doorstep at our back doors. We have placed two pavers at our stairs D5/D6 and you can clearly see how this would work fine. At this stage, we need to finish this project, we are very close. Let's start working on our paths/planting over the weekend!I also want to point out that ALL units have a hard surface entrance alternative: A units, H units, C units M1& M2 have front concrete pads and the D units have concrete balconies. Only M3 has no other alternative but the hoggin paving to access.And let's also remember how lucky we are to have our units completed. They might not be perfect but nothing is, let's look at all the positives aspects of the project and let's start building our paths/gardens. Have a great day :)Maria-- Maria CallauTOIORA High Street Cohousing UCOL Member and Project Coordinator0211847490
Hi All,
I have done some research and spoken to the quarry manager at Milburn Lime based in Milton.
He advised that if the surface of our paving was a bit boney we could dress it with some agricultural crushed lime to help it bind together better.
This can be purchased by the bag or by the truck load from Milburn Lime.
I suggest that we get a couple of bags and hire a plate compactor and see if this will solve the issue with our hoggin.
Cheers,
Tim.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:25 AM bluefrog bluefrog@orcon.net.nz wrote:
I think the hogging is a brilliant base to have. It can be permanent for some areas, or we can dig into it to lay pavers or edging.
Completely versatile.
Have a doormat at your entrance to kick off the bits for now. And design your private garden so the hogging stops a few meters away from your door in the future.
Min
-------- Original message -------- From: High St Cohousing ucolbuild@gmail.com Date: 16/03/2021 8:56 am (GMT+12:00) To: UCOL shareholders ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz Subject: [Ucol-shareholders] Hoggin Paving and Solutions
Hi everybody.
I have seen a few emails and comments about the hoggin paving.
Let's remember that the design team proposed the hoggin paving and that the group accepted it going all the way to our back doorsteps. We have nothing to say to SW about this. We like it or not, we have instructed them to do so. We might not be happy with the final result but it was our decision and they only followed our instructions and specifications. We could have asked for a sample but we didn't, so now we need to live with it. We also need to remember, as Tim pointed out, that the group decided not to have access at level with the units to reduce costs as this included expensive channels at every back doorstep. It was our decision to do that.
The levels are not perfect (in my view) but they are not the end of the world either. They also vary from house to house.
SOLUTIONS/SOLUTIONS!
We can easily build our paths by placing pavers or stones in our private back yards to access our back doorsteps. This would create a clean area to walk through (about 4 metres of path) with the added benefit of raising the level at our doorstep by around 30/50mm where needed potentially achieving the ideal 150/180mm doorstep at our back doors. We have placed two pavers at our stairs D5/D6 and you can clearly see how this would work fine.
At this stage, we need to finish this project, we are very close. Let's start working on our paths/planting over the weekend!
I also want to point out that ALL units have a hard surface entrance alternative: A units, H units, C units M1& M2 have front concrete pads and the D units have concrete balconies. Only M3 has no other alternative but the hoggin paving to access.
And let's also remember how lucky we are to have our units completed. They might not be perfect but nothing is, let's look at all the positives aspects of the project and let's start building our paths/gardens.
Have a great day :)
Maria
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*Maria Callau*
*TOIORA* High Street Cohousing UCOL Member and Project Coordinator 0211847490
Ucol-shareholders mailing list Ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz https://list.king.net.nz/listinfo/ucol-shareholders
Great solution to move forward, Tim! Thank you.
Thank you also for listening to and addressing each person’s concerns about this and many other things. We are so lucky to have you on board as architect and part of the community.
Catherine
On 16/03/2021, at 11:25 AM, Tim Ross <tim@architype.co.nz mailto:tim@architype.co.nz> wrote:
Hi All,
I have done some research and spoken to the quarry manager at Milburn Lime based in Milton.
He advised that if the surface of our paving was a bit boney we could dress it with some agricultural crushed lime to help it bind together better.
This can be purchased by the bag or by the truck load from Milburn Lime.
I suggest that we get a couple of bags and hire a plate compactor and see if this will solve the issue with our hoggin.
Cheers,
Tim.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:25 AM bluefrog <bluefrog@orcon.net.nz mailto:bluefrog@orcon.net.nz> wrote: I think the hogging is a brilliant base to have. It can be permanent for some areas, or we can dig into it to lay pavers or edging.
Completely versatile.
Have a doormat at your entrance to kick off the bits for now. And design your private garden so the hogging stops a few meters away from your door in the future.
Min
-------- Original message -------- From: High St Cohousing <ucolbuild@gmail.com mailto:ucolbuild@gmail.com> Date: 16/03/2021 8:56 am (GMT+12:00) To: UCOL shareholders <ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz mailto:ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz> Subject: [Ucol-shareholders] Hoggin Paving and Solutions
Hi everybody.
I have seen a few emails and comments about the hoggin paving.
Let's remember that the design team proposed the hoggin paving and that the group accepted it going all the way to our back doorsteps. We have nothing to say to SW about this. We like it or not, we have instructed them to do so. We might not be happy with the final result but it was our decision and they only followed our instructions and specifications. We could have asked for a sample but we didn't, so now we need to live with it. We also need to remember, as Tim pointed out, that the group decided not to have access at level with the units to reduce costs as this included expensive channels at every back doorstep. It was our decision to do that.
The levels are not perfect (in my view) but they are not the end of the world either. They also vary from house to house.
SOLUTIONS/SOLUTIONS!
We can easily build our paths by placing pavers or stones in our private back yards to access our back doorsteps. This would create a clean area to walk through (about 4 metres of path) with the added benefit of raising the level at our doorstep by around 30/50mm where needed potentially achieving the ideal 150/180mm doorstep at our back doors. We have placed two pavers at our stairs D5/D6 and you can clearly see how this would work fine.
At this stage, we need to finish this project, we are very close. Let's start working on our paths/planting over the weekend!
I also want to point out that ALL units have a hard surface entrance alternative: A units, H units, C units M1& M2 have front concrete pads and the D units have concrete balconies. Only M3 has no other alternative but the hoggin paving to access.
And let's also remember how lucky we are to have our units completed. They might not be perfect but nothing is, let's look at all the positives aspects of the project and let's start building our paths/gardens.
Have a great day :)
Maria
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Maria Callau
TOIORA High Street Cohousing UCOL Member and Project Coordinator 0211847490
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Could we hold off on compacting the hogging please? Pretty sure we need to dig out our garden beds before everything gets compacted down. Even if we do raised beds, they should extend below the ground about 30 cm, or we will have problems with the Veges drying out too fast.Min -------- Original message --------From: Tim Ross tim@architype.co.nz Date: 16/03/2021 11:27 am (GMT+12:00) To: bluefrog bluefrog@orcon.net.nz Cc: High St Cohousing ucolbuild@gmail.com, UCOL shareholders ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz Subject: Re: [Ucol-shareholders] Hoggin Paving and Solutions Hi All,I have done some research and spoken to the quarry manager at Milburn Lime based in Milton.He advised that if the surface of our paving was a bit boney we could dress it with some agricultural crushed lime to help it bind together better.This can be purchased by the bag or by the truck load from Milburn Lime.I suggest that we get a couple of bags and hire a plate compactor and see if this will solve the issue with our hoggin.Cheers,Tim.On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:25 AM bluefrog bluefrog@orcon.net.nz wrote:I think the hogging is a brilliant base to have. It can be permanent for some areas, or we can dig into it to lay pavers or edging.Completely versatile.Have a doormat at your entrance to kick off the bits for now. And design your private garden so the hogging stops a few meters away from your door in the future.Min-------- Original message --------From: High St Cohousing ucolbuild@gmail.com Date: 16/03/2021 8:56 am (GMT+12:00) To: UCOL shareholders ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz Subject: [Ucol-shareholders] Hoggin Paving and Solutions Hi everybody.I have seen a few emails and comments about the hoggin paving. Let's remember that the design team proposed the hoggin paving and that the group accepted it going all the way to our back doorsteps. We have nothing to say to SW about this. We like it or not, we have instructed them to do so. We might not be happy with the final result but it was our decision and they only followed our instructions and specifications. We could have asked for a sample but we didn't, so now we need to live with it. We also need to remember, as Tim pointed out, that the group decided not to have access at level with the units to reduce costs as this included expensive channels at every back doorstep. It was our decision to do that. The levels are not perfect (in my view) but they are not the end of the world either.They also vary from house to house. SOLUTIONS/SOLUTIONS!We can easily build our paths by placing pavers or stones in our private back yards to access our back doorsteps. This would create a clean area to walk through (about 4 metres of path) with the added benefit of raising the level at our doorstep by around 30/50mm where needed potentially achieving the ideal 150/180mm doorstep at our back doors. We have placed two pavers at our stairs D5/D6 and you can clearly see how this would work fine. At this stage, we need to finish this project, we are very close. Let's start working on our paths/planting over the weekend!I also want to point out that ALL units have a hard surface entrance alternative: A units, H units, C units M1& M2 have front concrete pads and the D units have concrete balconies. Only M3 has no other alternative but the hoggin paving to access.And let's also remember how lucky we are to have our units completed. They might not be perfect but nothing is, let's look at all the positives aspects of the project and let's start building our paths/gardens. Have a great day :)Maria-- Maria CallauTOIORA High Street Cohousing UCOL Member and Project Coordinator0211847490 _______________________________________________ Ucol-shareholders mailing list Ucol-shareholders@list.king.net.nz https://list.king.net.nz/listinfo/ucol-shareholders
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