Hi all
Here’s the agenda so far. Please send me anything else eg Disaster workshop, project management? Group updates for discussion are attached.
Thanks Anna
Toiora High Street Cohousing meeting agenda (draft) Thursday 26th August, 7.30pm by Zoom: https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09 https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09 (password 252525) Chair and Notetaker: Sara Ferreira & Anna Maxwell
Apologies:
Appreciations
Items carried from last meeting:
Sound transmission between units: what was to be expected and how this is going. (Pauline)
Use of site by non-residents of Toiora cohousing community (Claire)
Outreach Group update
Letter of gratitude Joining in process documents Inductions
Communications Group update
Update from meetings (attached)
Brief Gather demo
Open forum
Next meeting date set. Chair/ note taker
Can we add another item to the agenda?
Common House Door Codes: I suggest we each have our own code to enter the common house.
Background information:
I've been uncomfortable about a single code for a while. Single (shared) codes are the least secure way to arrange access to the common house. Since we have to change the code anyway, it would be a good opportunity to go to individual codes.
The electronic locks we use keep a record (log) of each time they are activated (door unlocked,) e.g. time and date and which code or device was used to unlock the door. This means if there was ever a problem with a break-in, we could review the log and find when the door was accessed and what code was used.
Problems with a single shared code:
* It tends to be shared widely. (The current shared code is now known to many people who we'd prefer didn't have access to our common house.) * Shared codes tend to become more wellknown over time, you can't reduce the number of people who know them (except by changing the code). This means there is often a policy to change codes regularly, e.g. every month. * They are hard to change if needed, because it will inconvenience everybody if it needs to be changed. * There is less accountability when with shared codes; if you're not sure whether to tell someone what it is or dubious about it (tradesman, family member, friends, people staying in the guest room), you're more likely to share it than an individual code that can get traced back to you in the event something goes wrong.
The single benefit of individual codes is: if you forget it, you can ask your neighbour what it is.
Advantages of individual codes:
* You can choose your own code. You can use a code you are familiar with. * It's more secure, because there is more accountability. * If there is an incident (something is stolen from the common house), there is more information available to help in an investigation, perhaps a resolution can be reached that would not be possible with a shared code. * If some people are diligent about not sharing codes and other are lax, they are choosing to live with the consequences of their own actions rather than sharing risk with others. * If someone has an accident and their personal code becomes widely known (e.g. posted on facebook), then that code can be changed without inconveniencing everyone. * It's what our electronic locks were designed to use. * During covid lockdown levels it provides an additional form of contact tracing if that's needed.
Disadvantage of individual codes:
* More admin (although I'm willing to do the admin for it.) * slightly higher chance of someone being able to randomly crack a code. Therefore I'd suggest we use a 5 or 6 digit code instead of a 4 digit code.
We can also have a combination of both systems. E.g. if a group of people still wanted a shared code despite the benefits of individual codes, then that group could have a shared code while the rest have individual codes. You can also have more than one code per household, e.g. you can have one code for yourself and a separate code for guests. We could also agree to have a tradesperson/guest code that gets changed every 3 months.
It may be that protection of equipment in the workshop, kitchen, craft and photo gear etc. isn't that important to warrant the security of the common house being any higher? But in any case, I think since individual codes are easier to remember, we can have better convenience as well as higher security.
Currently the old code is still active. I heard from Gay, Min, Roz, Anthony, Rainer, Marianne, Anne, Sue T, Catherine, Sara, Kristin that they use the code and would need an updated code, so I won't take the old one off until we've decided this issue and I've been able to issue new codes to people. Remember there are other alternatives to codes: The phone app (which is pretty inconvenient to use unfortunately), loading a bus card or bank card (I use this method and find it easier than a code, but some find it unreliable or fiddly), and there are some fobs we can give out for your keyring.
Maybe we can decide this tomorrow.
Thanks, Alex
On 24/08/21 8:04 pm, Anna wrote:
Hi all
Here’s the agenda so far. Please send me anything else eg Disaster workshop, project management? Group updates for discussion are attached.
Thanks Anna
* Toiora High Street Cohousing meeting agenda (draft)*
*Thursday 26th August, 7.30pm by Zoom:*
https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09 https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09
(password 252525)
*Chair and Notetaker*: Sara Ferreira & Anna Maxwell
*Apologies*:
*Appreciations***
*Items carried from last meeting:*
*Sound transmission between units*: what was to be expected and how this is going. (Pauline)
*Use of site by non-residents of Toiora* *cohousing community* (Claire)
*Outreach Group update*
Letter of gratitude Joining in process documents Inductions
*Communications Group update*
Update from meetings (attached)
Brief Gather demo
*Open forum***
*Next meeting date set. **Chair/ note taker*
**
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