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Toiora High Street Cohousing Agreement edited
by Warren Hurley 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

Hi all, Thanks to all who were able to attend yesterday's session, and to Anna & Anthony (whose suggestions were along similar lines to our discussion) I've tried to incorporate the changes that we talked about, and have come up with a different angle on the Annual Group Workshop . . . The altered sections are highlighted in yellow. We got as far as page 5 'The Group' and just dipped into sections past that point. The bulk of the Appendices have been well established, or conversely, recently established, so might not need a lot of discussion. Please bring comments to the next meeting. I'd like to spend 30 - 40 minutes on this and see where we get to . . . I have also edited the Child Protection Policy to update with our new name. Please check this for spelling /grammar etc. Cheers Warren

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Fwd: can you please
by Anne Thomson 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

This (below) is to us all, I think, since I was only round for the food. But would very much like a copy of the list sent to ucoldunedin(a)gmail.com - or give it to me on Thursday. I presume someone picked up the list at the end of Sunday? The energy and enthusiasm pouring out of the room at 12.30 was amazing - and there were 8 other people who emailed at the weekend wanting to come. I told them the venue was full, but didn't realise just how full! We do need to be clear about the process of renting/buying from here on in. As I see it, with the possible exception of A2, from now on the decision is entirely with the unit owner. We (Toiora Cohousing) can hold workshops and create a list of interested (and inducted) people that we can offer to unit owners. But not a waiting list as we have been running it. And the unit owner decides who they rent/sell to. What do others think? Anne ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020, 3:56 pm Subject: can you please To: Anne Thomson <e.anne.thomson(a)gmail.com> Let us have the list of contacts for people interested in renting? Thanks Good day yesterday. Worked well for us as we were keen to have input on the agreement and also found out there are people who might be interested. One lady was really keen but we simply don’t think having a family of four would work in M2. Got min to talk to her, as a D owner, as think dennis and adelyn’s might be much more suitable. Regds roz

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DRAFT OUTLINE-Toiora-HS Cohousing Agreement v3.5.docx
by Roz Wilson 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

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Boxes, boxes, boxes
by Warren Hurley 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

If anyone is starting to pack and needs boxes - I have plenty. * Small boxes - smaller than a shoe box - ideal for wrapping delicate items * Middle size - wine box size - ideal for books as they are heavy in bulk! * Large boxes - toys, clothing * Giant boxes - ideal for duvets, sleeping bags etc. You will need to visit to select what you want. 44 Manchester St., Bradford If they are too bulky for your car or bicycle, then I'm happy to deliver. Phone me 021 539090 Email me warren.hurley(a)orcon.net.nz <mailto:warren.hurley@orcon.net.nz> Cheers Warren

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Workshop today
by Anna Maxwell 22 Nov '20

22 Nov '20

Hello all Anthony and I won’t try to attend the workshop by zoom today. A lot of great work has gone into the agreement - special acknowledgement to Warren - it’s looking good. Basically we support it and don’t have much feedback, just a couple of comments: The membership section may need some attention. It says Every resident aged 18 years or over, and every non-resident owner, is a member of Toiora Cohousing Group. Then goes on to say that all members are obliged to attend group meetings, participate in working bees etc ‘Resident’ is a new term in these documents - presumably it means the same as the term occupier in the body corp document - ie everyone who lives on the development. So this doesn’t allow for the case of adult children and flatmates who may not contribute directly to these things, as discussed in recent emails. Alex’s suggestion of an overall work quota based on the number of people in the household sounds good to us. The other comment is about the pets section. We don’t think the statement ‘we welcome pets in our neighbourhood’ is needed. Aside from the fact that some people may not really welcome pets, it’s somewhat at odds with the following statement about a sinking lid policy. Apologies for the last minute input. Thanks everyone. Anna and Anthony

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Sunday Induction Workshop programme - please read this email if you are coming!
by Jan Burch 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

Kia ora Toiora (Not sure that the grammar is correct but I love the rhyming in the greeting) Attached is a draft programme for the induction workshop. I'm counting on you to point out any errors or omissions so things can be fixed before Sunday. Anne and Catherine have frightened me with large number of people who may be present - all wanting to meet real cohousers - so I'm hoping as many as possible will be there for our shared lunch (finger foods) at 12.30pm. >From past experience we know many will arrive early, well before the 10.30am start, so if you are in the neighbourhood and could pop to the Sustainability Centre about 10am, help with meet and greet and join in the people bingo, it would be awesome, even if you leave as soon as the workshop starts. *EVERYONE *PLEASE BE CAREFUL IF TALKING ABOUT WHICH UNITS MAY BE FOR SALE/RENT. *DCC have not officially indicated in any way that they wish to sell theirs so at this stage we must not be seen to be offering A2 for sale. * Warren is looking at selling his unit, so it is fine for him to talk about that, and we expect that there will be other owners who wish to sell or rent, but unless you are wanting to sell or rent your own unit, you mustn't be more specific about what will be for sale. We will be asking participants to put their contact details down on a list as either interested in buying, interested in renting or just interested. We'll offer to pass the list to cohousers who are looking for buyers or renters at time of settlement, but we cannot offer waiting list or any detail about any unit other than our own. *So at our Induction Workshop Please Don't Even Mention DCC !* Thanks Jan

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Site photos
by Maria Callau 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

Some balustrades emerging on site... Have a good weekend, M Maria Callau 021 1847490 Sent from my iPhone

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no freeloaders
by Roz Wilson 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

We have been talking about our days as wwoof hosts. There were several categories of people. Some had to be chased in at night or they might have kept working. Some who were ok. Some who were not ok. We tried to include people in our whole lives so it didn't matter if they helped with the animals or the gardens or cooked so long as they did something. The ones who were not ok thought wwoofing was a free and effortless way of travelling. We think toiora should expect everyone to do something, but recognise it might be more geared to their skills and interests. We don't think anyone should be able to simply freeload. Regds roz and michael

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Final drafts for Renters, Purchasers, Boarders/Flatmates/Adult children
by Gay Buckingham 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

Tenants and Purchasers Informations sheets. Please find attached the final versions. Each has an amendment based on comments from Anne and Catherine. Unless anyone opposes it, I intend taking copies to Sunday’s workshops for people who want something to take away. Flatmates/Boarders/Adult children: clearly this requires discussion towards consensus. Can it go on the agenda for next Thursday please? I don’t have any strong feelings about this and won’t be at the meeting (Wedding:Queenstown:Friday) but it will become important very soon. Have a great weekend everyone and see (most of you) on Sunday. Best, Gay Gay Buckingham +64 27 4544012

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signing and committing discussion
by Roz Wilson 20 Nov '20

20 Nov '20

Are we saying so long as one person from a unit signs the cohousing agreement and commits to helping out with working bees, kitchen duty, teams etc any other short or long term occupier of any unit, be they spouses, children of any age, boarders, Airbnb etc, can participate in any cohousing activities and use all the common facilities on the same footing as the person who signed the agreement without having to make any contribution as listed in the cohousing agreement. This is not necessarily what we believe, we may be being devil's advocates. Would be good to get people to think about this before it comes up at a meeting. regds roz and michael

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