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Paint prices and kiwibank account number sent
by Jan Burch 05 Oct '20

05 Oct '20

Hi folks Everyone (except Jess and James) should have received an email from me with paint cost and the bank account for payment. If you haven't received it, please reply to me now and I'll send by return email. Jess and/or James, it's not that you don't also have to pay, it's just that I couldn't find your email address(es). If you would email me back I'll make sure that you get yours too. I haven't put when the money is due because I am not actually sure, but someone can ask that question on Thursday :-) See you then Jan

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Re: [Ucol-shareholders] commercial kitchen
by Rainer Beneke 05 Oct '20

05 Oct '20

Hi Roz thanks for getting this started. sounds like its not straight forward, am particularly worried about commercial extraction… I think the advice Justin is giving regarding commercial vs high quality domestic should not be overlooked. Perhaps we might go with a F&P appliance, especially now that we have a commercial account with them. This thing looks good to me and we may get it for $4000 from F&P. https://www.smythsliving.co.nz/products/f-p-or90sdg6x1-freestanding-cooker-… <https://www.smythsliving.co.nz/products/f-p-or90sdg6x1-freestanding-cooker-…> I had a chat with a friend who has been in the food industry for 30 years (Pasta D’ORO, now Artisan food), who asked me, ‘who is designing the kitchen?’. Anyhow, she suggested to talk to Southern Hospitality to talk things over regarding our requirements. She said they are staffed by ex chefs. And of cause they are local. https://www.southernhospitality.co.nz/ <https://www.southernhospitality.co.nz/> Can someone team up with Roz and perhaps make an appointment with southern hospitality??? Our kitchen plan and that we may cook for 40 people is a good starting point. regards Rainer Please call me if you need an urgent reply. Rainer Beneke +64 21 144 7700 rainer.ucol(a)gmail.com > On 5/10/2020, at 4:13 PM, Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Could people please read the email from the commercial kitchen supplier. Have asked him to do an estimate of the cost of using stainless steel benches but, from what he says, we need to rethink the appliances to make sure we do want to go commercial. Looks as if it could be an expensive business. One thing to keep in mind is whether using a domestic appliance of any kind would invalidate the warranty should there be any issues. This used to be the case. > I have done some on line costings for the stainless steel benches and shelves and think we could get those for around five thousand so that sounds cheaper than domestic. Xavier has just had a new kitchen made. It is 3.6m x about 3m and included gas oven and a dishwasher and was just under $20k installed. Tho justin (below) does mention using a joiner. Maybe open wooden shelves with stainless steel benchtops is another option we could consider? > Can I please have feedback as, from the advice given, our plans are unworkable. Thanks roz > > From: Justin Mouw - Tiger Hospo Equiment <justin(a)tigerhospoequipment.com <mailto:justin@tigerhospoequipment.com>> > Sent: Monday, 5 October 2020 12:49 pm > To: Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:michael.rosemary@xtra.co.nz>> > Subject: Re: commercial kitchen > > Hi again Roz > > I’ve had a look over the plan, it’s a sort of half & half Commercial kitchen with some modular stainless benches - Simply Stainless Specified - & domestic joinery. > > Looks like a commercial gas Range on the plans, do you realise you will need a commercial extraction system given the output of the Commercial Range ? These systems are very expensive and require detailed air flow calculations with put red in inlet air to offset the amount of air being extracted. > > I would suggest you buy a high quality domestic gas range with electric oven for ease of use, then you can simply install a domestic range hood. > > With a mixture of open, commercial style stainless steel benching and domestic joinery units it may be just as easy and economical to have your joiner provide stainless worktops around the room for a more industrial look. > > The trouble people have with a commercial appliances is that unless you come from a professional chef background most people would struggle to use them, for example these don’t have a clicker to spark the hobs, all commercial ranges are manually lit with a lighter, the extra power in the hobs and gas usage makes these not really suitable for a domestic environment. > > Considering the large cost of an Extraction System - $10K + and the noise and vibration these create in a commercial environment I would suggest you won’t really gain any benefits from going down this track. > > Likewise if you were to install an Under Bench Commercial Dishwasher which will do a cycle in 1 minute, one rack at a time, someone will need to start this in the morning and empty it at night while it stays on and ready to use all day, again this may not be appropriate for your situation unless of course you are employing a professional chef or cook to to run this kitchen. > > Having said all of that if you are determined to install commercial appliances and some commercial benching we can price up the Gas Range, Modular Benching and Under Bench Commercial Dishwasher ( Commercial dishwashers should not be installed with domestic joinery, they get very hot and give off steam which destroys timber products. > > Let me know your thoughts. > > > > > Kind Regards > > Justin Mouw > > 02108747468 > > www.tigerhospoequipment.com <http://www.tigerhospoequipment.com/> > > > <Email New Logo A_ 2.jpg> > > The information contained in this mail message is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. The views expressed in this document do not necessarily reflect those of the company. > > >> On 5/10/2020, at 11:32 AM, Roz Wilson <michael.rosemary(a)xtra.co.nz <mailto:michael.rosemary@xtra.co.nz>> wrote: >> >> <Image (6).jpg>

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Community-Led Housing Discussion
by e.anne.thomson＠gmail.com 05 Oct '20

05 Oct '20

Just to let you know that tomorrow (Thursday 8 October) there is going to be a "community-led housing discussion" held at the Athenaeum basement from 5-7pm, organised by Campbell O'Neill. There will be six speakers. The suggested topics are : - Camia, discuss Collet’s Corner and its successes and trials so far - James, discuss the comparisons you’ve drawn between papakainga and cohousing - maybe in regard to whakapapa - Barry, discuss your place in the various communities and how it relates to your knowledge of the finance sector - David, discuss your views on how the public sector maybe able to assist in the community led space - drawing on DCC’s involvement with High Street? - Anne, discuss the social and community infrastructure of the High Street project that is coming together - in regard to the codesign, codevelopment aspects - Campbell, the idea of collecting people and drawing them together to a shared goal. I'm sure that Campbell O'Neill, who is organising this, would be keen for more people to come along, and all of us would have a lot to contribute from personal experience about getting the Toiora project off the ground and almost ready to move in. Anne Title: Community-Led Housing Discussion When: Thu 8 Oct 2020 5pm – 7pm New Zealand Time Where: Basement Level, The Atheneaum, 23 The Octagon, Dunedin. 9016 Who: * e.anne.thomson(a)gmail.com- organiser

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Notes from Thursday's meeting
by Anne Thomson 03 Oct '20

03 Oct '20

Attached are the notes of the meeting and a pdf of the timeline we have created for the work that needs to be completed before the Code of Compliance can be issued. The full spreadsheet can be better viewed at http://highstreetcohousing.nz/docs/, the second sheet of the To-Do list Please send any items - preferably with a paragraph or two giving the background information needed for discussion - to Anne by Wednesday 7 October. Thanks, Anne

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Agenda for Thursday 1 October
by Anne Thomson 01 Oct '20

01 Oct '20

*Agenda for meeting of Toiora High Street Cohsouing* *Thursday 1 October at 7.30pm* at Numberworks, 90 Crawford St, Dunedin or via Zoom Meeting ID: 9016 25 9016 Password 25 25 25 https://otago.zoom.us/j/9016259016?pwd=ZGZQRnM2L2tsai90eENKRExQUEtJQT09 *Chair and Notetaker*: Sue and Anne *Apologies:* *Appreciations:* *7.45pm Tina Gillan, Rothbury Insurance* 1/ Body corp insurance – what does it cover? Why do we need regularly updated valuations? 2/ Public liability insurance – do we need it? Why do we need it? What does it cover? 3/ Contracts works insurance for later work on units – when do we need it? How big a project? 4/ Our current contracts works insurance finishes when the contract does – when the builders hand over the building. When does the body corp come into existence – at that point, or when we individually take possession (and UCOL ceases to exist)? What insurance cover do we (UCOL) need between the end of the build and settlement? 5/ What can we do on site and in our units in the period between end-of-build and settlement. Does work inside units (eg painting) have any insurance implications? *8.15pm creating our timeline* · insurance get quote change to Toiora house insurance after builders finish (payment?) · electricity supplier prepare options (subgroup) select supplier (group) change supplier when builders finish? or when we settle? · curb and angle parking drawings to DCC for approval approved drawings to S&W build S&W (Hall Brothers) · fence openings for unit access (also needed for S&W site works) quote for concrete cutting remove fence panels and 1 x gate & post cut nib wall · body corp approve body corp · unit title cut nib wall for surveyor send approved body corp to surveyor house/unit numbers???? ???? · appliances · letterboxes design group approval build letterboxes · quote for essential commercial kitchen · 5 wall units (first half) 2 x H-units; 3 x A-units · Driveway · Laundry finish inside and/or paint · Washing lines · Review and complete group agreement *Any other matters needing to be discussed before next week*

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timeline for to-do list
by Rainer Beneke 30 Sep '20

30 Sep '20

Hi all These are some of my thoughts here, there may be other tasks missing. If someone has a timeline program or alternatively put it on a spreadsheet, that would be good. We might also have a white-board available at number works. See you all on Thursday and be prepared to take on tasks… regards Rainer I would like to see a timeline that finishes on Friday 27th November (8 weeks) or Friday 4th December (9 Weeks) these tasks are essential for code compliance, no particular order. insurance get quote change to Toiora house insurance after builders finish (payment?) electricity supplier prepare options (subgroup) select supplier (group) change supplier when builders finish? or when we settle? curb and angle parking drawings to DCC for approval approved drawings to S&W build S&W (Hall Brothers) fence openings for unit access (also needed for S&W site works) quote for concrete cutting remove fence panels and 1 x gate & post cut nib wall body corp approve body corp unit title cut nib wall for surveyor send approved body corp to surveyor house/unit numbers???? ???? 5 wall units (first half) 2 x H-units 3 x A-units appliances letterboxes design group approval build letterboxes quote for essential commercial kitchen Please call me if you need an urgent reply. Rainer Beneke +64 21 144 7700 rainer.ucol(a)gmail.com

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Agenda for this Thursday 1 October
by Anne Thomson 29 Sep '20

29 Sep '20

Hi all, I am anticipating that this week we will have a more focused agenda, really just two items: 7.45pm Tina Gillan (insurance broker) coming to explain what insurance we will need as a body corp. [If there are particular questions you want answered, please let me know asap] 8.15pm Creating our timeline from the to-do list If there are other matters that we need to talk about this week, rather than waiting until 8 October, let me know by tomorrow (Wednesday) 5pm. Thanks, Anne

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Visit from Tina Gillan, insurance broker
by High Street Cohousing 28 Sep '20

28 Sep '20

Hi all, On Thursday night Tina Gillan will come along at 7.45pm for half an hour to talk about our ongoing insurance needs. I want to send her through some of the questions we want to ask, by Wednesday evening. These are the questions I have so far - please send me any others that you have by Wednesday afternoon: *QUESTIONS FOR TINA’S VISIT * 1/ Public liability insurance – do we need it? Why do we need it? What does it cover? 2/ Contracts works insurance for later work on units – when do we need it? How big a project? 3/ Our current contract works insurance finishes when the contract does – when the builders hand over the building. When does the body corp come into existence – at that point, or when we individually take possession (and UCOL ceases to exist)? What insurance cover do we (UCOL) need between the end of the build and settlement? 4/ What can we do on site and in our units in the period between end-of-build and settlement. Does work inside units (eg painting) have any insurance implications? Send me through any further insurance questions Anne

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Draft Meeting Notes from 24 September 2020 Meeting
by Karen Or 25 Sep '20

25 Sep '20

Hi all, See attached draft note and the two documents referenced in the notes. Welcome for any feedback and corrections. Have a lovely weekend. Cheers, Karen

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Scott Willis and James Shaw would like to visit the UCOL site on Monday.
by Alex King 25 Sep '20

25 Sep '20

Scott Willis (Green Party candidate for Taieri) and James Shaw would like to visit the cohousing site on Monday morning to meet a few cohousing people and talk about cohousing and "minigrid" (electricity supply options), and renewable elecricity. The Green party are enthusiastic about cohousing, they want to "Ensure regulatory frameworks support the development of innovative co-housing initiatives." ( from https://www.greens.org.nz/housing_2020). Scott told me he'd like to see another 5 or 6 cohousing initiatives take off in Dunedin in the next few years. If anyone wants to come and have the discussion with Scott and James, or if you have any other thoughts, let me know. It's all being arranged at the last minute, I still need to confirm with S&W etc. Thanks, Alex

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